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We all love vintage cast iron, so something that makes me quite cross is seeing fakes out there. Earlier this year I purchased a large collection of iron (over 200 pieces!) and these turned up when I was unpacking.
These tea sized corn stick pans are a really good example of a “bad” fake – in that it’s pretty easy for me to look at it and know, as opposed to humming and hawing, and sending pictures off to other knowledgeable collectors (such as the Reproduction Committee of the Griswold & Cast Iron Cookware Association).
There are a number of different features that clearly label these as cheap reproductions – some more obvious than others
1. Poor Quality Casting
The detail of the casting is poorly defined. If you look at the picture, I placed a genuine corn stick pan next to the fake. You can see that all the minutiae of the corn is very clear and defined on one, but not the other.
Poor casting is often the first key indicator of a fake!
2. Incorrect Numbering
Griswold Corn Sticks No. 262 have pattern number 625 associated with them. Pattern 625 was never used for No. 282 pans!
3. The Number of Holes
Griswold-made corn stick pans always have one hole in the handle at the top of the corn stick pan, this has two. There is a second variation of this pan which has two holes, but it was made by
Wagner after they purchased Griswold, and both the pattern and “ERIE PA., U.S.A.” are missing from the markings.
4. The Font
This is not typical Griswold font. Not only is the font type different, but the letters are all higgledy piggledy and not in a straight line.
(a) If you look closely, the markings state “ERIE PA USA” whereas on the genuine corn stick pan, it’s “ERIE PA.,U.S.A.”
(b) The spacing is incorrect. The genuine Griswold has no spaces between “CORNORWHEAT” and the fake does.
A particularly useful resource for those who love Griswold bakeware, is the book “Griswold Muffin Pans” by Jon B. Haussler. You can buy it on Amazon, right here. It contains all the Griswold bakeware, and all the variations, numbers and patterns, with photos. It’s a great reference when you’re pan hunting!
So folks, keep an eye out when you’re looking to purchase pieces. The poor casting is one of the more obvious ways to determine a fake, but sometimes the reproductions can be pretty close to the real thing. Hopefully this article will help you avoid fakes in the future.
In the meantime, Happy Cooking!
I love cake. I particularly love cake on the day it’s baked, and fortunately, I love baking too. My grandmother was a wonderful baker, and whenever I make a cake I feel her spirit in the kitchen with me. Admittedly, sometimes her spirit is wondering what on earth I’m doing when I accidently swap teaspoons for tablespoons or burning the pecans when they’re meant to be lightly toasted, but it’s still there, cheering me on!
I was nervous when I started making skillet cakes. My skillets were GREAT for searing meat, or frying eggs, but I wasn’t sure whether the non-stick surface would still work with baking cakes. I also burned the first couple of muffin batches I made, so I was a bit worried about making a mess.
To get around this, I started using parchment paper (baking paper to some) sprayed with a little Pam to line the skillets. I never had a problem with a sticking cake and there was minimal washing up! The only downside is that the cakes were a little uneven, but that didn’t matter when you could cover them in icing!
After a while though I wanted to start making layer cakes, and for that you need a more consistent shape, so I decided to use the old fashioned method of rubbing butter on the inside of the pan, and then dusting with flour. It took a little more attention getting it out of the pan, but it worked perfectly too!
So what should you use? Frankly, it doesn’t matter – try both, and pick what works best for you! Cast iron is nothing if not versatile!
Your cakes will taste great, regardless!
Stephanie from the Pacific North West wanted to know more about this Griswold Corn Bread Pan.
This corn bread pan was one of Griswold’s most prolific baking pans. Even though it has “Corn Bread Pan” inscribed on the underside, it is known as the “Griswold No. 22 Bread Stick Pan, pattern number 954” and was made in Erie, Pennsylvania from the 1880’s all the way up to the 1950’s. According to the book ‘Griswold Muffin Pans’ by Jon B. Haussler (available from Amazon here) there are 15 (!!!!) known variations of this pan.
Stephanie’s pan is variation 12, which is one of the most common variations of this pan. It’s one of the later iterations of the pan, and has the hanging holes (which started appearing in Variation 7) and the Griswold name inscribed on the underside (which started in Variation 10).
Whilst there are no particularly rare variations, many collectors have fun trying to hunt down them all. These pans are pretty easy to find, in flea markets, antique stores or garage sales. We always have some of these (usually Variation 15, below) available on the site too.
Don’t think you’re limited to just making bread sticks in them – I made crab cakes in a bread stick pan during a fun competition that founder Mary had a couple of years ago. She even wrote a blog post about it here (with recipe)!
All in all, this is a fun, accessible baking pan to have.
Happy Cooking, Stephanie!
Question: Bill C from Virginia wrote “I have a Griswold #11 or model 717 fry pan. It works good with gas but I want to use it on a flat surface electric stove. Can I grind down the ring on bottom side of pan without affecting function of pan?”
Anna’s Answer: You can use pans with heat rings on electric stoves, so I’m wondering if the pan already has a significant wobble, or maybe some warpage.
Many vintage pans, particularly the larger ones, do have a small amount of movement. This doesn’t preclude them from being used on all cooking surfaces, a pan doesn’t need to be pancake flat, but if it has a severe rock or it spins, or you can slide something bigger than a nickel under the side then it’s not going to be a good cooker on a flat cooking surface such as an electric stove or induction cooktop. Of course, if you have raised burners such as with a gas range, or you want to use it in the oven or camping, you’ll be just fine. Mary wrote a great blog on pan movement here.
Let’s say Bill’s pan does have a big wobble, and preheating the pan isn’t enough to compensate. Bill can grind his heat ring down, but how flat the surface would be will depend on a combination of how evenly the heat ring is removed, and how flat the pan is otherwise, so Bill needs to be careful to stop at various times during the grinding process, and check how flat is pan is, and where the wobbles might be. This way he can adjust until both the heat ring is removed, and the pan sits flat on his stove.
After all, once you’ve ground something off, you can’t put it back on again, so be very conservative in your approach!
It’s important to note that grinding the heat ring off a Griswold such as this will reduce its value, and its desirability as a collector’s item. Generally, the Griswold #11’s are harder to find than the #10’s or #12’s, so personally I would acquire another pan, or another stove, before doing this.
It’s clear though that you want to use this pan, rather than have it for decoration, so if the value to you lies in its function, rather than its resale, then the change in value doesn’t matter.
Bill C – I hope you can let us know what you decide to do, and if you do grind the heat ring off, tell us how it went, and send a few photos!
After the success of Round 1 of Waffle Testing, I was excited to get into Round 2, so without further ado, I’m going to quit my waffling and get into it!
This batter was from well known chef Alton Brown and I found it on the Food Network, right here! Like the last round, this recipe uses butter and not oil, but it also adds buttermilk, and mixes both whole wheat and all purpose flour.
Once again, I made this first to give it time to sit, and once again, it came out really really thick. Nevertheless, I let it sit, and moved onto heating my iron.
The Waffle Iron
For this round of testing, I used the super unique EC Simmons Keen Kutter Waffle Iron (No. 8). It looks all innocent from the outside…
But once you open it up, you’ll know that your waffles will not look like all the other waffles out there!
There is no way I would have done waffle testing without using this waffle iron. It is just way too cool!
With this pan, I did the identical steps to the Griswold in Round 1. I heated both sides for about 5 mins each on Medium – High, but it was immediately obvious that what worked the first time round wasn’t going to work in Round 2. The pan was smoking! The best time to put in the batter is when the pan is just beginning to smoke, but this was about to set off the smoke detectors. Clearly, the EC Simmons pan heats up faster than the Griswold.
I turned the pan down, and put in the batter. It started cooking way to hard and fast, another indication of a too-hot pan. I took a picture as it was a clear example of what not to do!
I reduced the cooking time down to 4 minutes, but I don’t think I reduced the heat enough for this (it was set at Medium), and the waffle ended up browner than I would have liked.
This pan not only heated up faster, but it produces a thinner waffle, so you’ll need to heat up on a lower temperature, and cook for less time to get a great waffle.
The taste, however, was fantastic! Alton really hit the nail on the head with the flavor. The waffle didn’t taste dense either, which I attribute to the thinner waffle size.
I tried adding some water too (a cup) and it became quite runny. It impacted the cooking time (needing less) and it made the waffles almost too light to be able to cope with the toppings I had chosen for today (cottage cheese and blueberries). In retrospect, Alton’s recipe was perfect the way it was written for this waffle iron. When diluting batter, don’t do what I did and lump in a cup of water at a time, add it in 1/4 cup increments. Learn from my mistakes!
Here’s a later waffle with the diluted batter.
And once again, nothing stuck to the paddles! Clean up was going to be a breeze!
Lessons from Round 2Use a really cool waffle iron, If your paddles are smoking like a chimney, they’re too hot. Let them cool a little before pouring in the batter. You may need to play around with the heat time and temperature before you find the perfect setting, You may need to play around with the cooking time before you find the right time for your particular iron You’ll still need to flip the waffle iron to cook both sides of the waffle When diluting batter, add your water in increments and test. You may need to vary the density of your batter depending on your waffle toppings.
In Round 3, we’re making Chocolate Waffles, and they will be awesome!